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	<title>Comments on: Perl&#8217;s visibility and branding</title>
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	<description>Barking at technology</description>
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		<title>By: Zbigniew Lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://rassie.org/archives/312/comment-page-1#comment-6147</link>
		<dc:creator>Zbigniew Lukasiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to the &#039;articles in magazines&#039; line of thought - how about starting with something easier like the online aggregators (http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/, http://news.ycombinator.com/, slashdot, etc.).  I myself often write my blog posts with the intention to reach bigger audience than just the Perl community, but I mostly fail when I try self-submitting them, I would appreciate feedback how to improve my blog posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to the &#8216;articles in magazines&#8217; line of thought - how about starting with something easier like the online aggregators (<a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/</a>, <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/</a>, slashdot, etc.).  I myself often write my blog posts with the intention to reach bigger audience than just the Perl community, but I mostly fail when I try self-submitting them, I would appreciate feedback how to improve my blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Rassie&#8217;s Doghouse &#187; On generating buzz</title>
		<link>http://rassie.org/archives/312/comment-page-1#comment-6139</link>
		<dc:creator>Rassie&#8217;s Doghouse &#187; On generating buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buzzOn generating buzz July 12th, 2010 rassie Leave a comment Go to commentsAs is seems, my last article has left some things to be explained in more detail. Particularly, Gabor has left the following [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] buzzOn generating buzz July 12th, 2010 rassie Leave a comment Go to commentsAs is seems, my last article has left some things to be explained in more detail. Particularly, Gabor has left the following [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Nilson</title>
		<link>http://rassie.org/archives/312/comment-page-1#comment-6138</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only wish more people in the Perl community shared your points of view (specially the most influential ones). I think you&#039;re right on the spot with your branding analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only wish more people in the Perl community shared your points of view (specially the most influential ones). I think you&#8217;re right on the spot with your branding analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: rassie</title>
		<link>http://rassie.org/archives/312/comment-page-1#comment-6136</link>
		<dc:creator>rassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the liberty to correct the paragraphs.

Considering articles: a very well-known IT publisher in Germany, Heise Verlag, is always happy to accept good articles. If I have some time someday, I&#039;d send them an article about Perl. I think I&#039;ll publish my thoughts on that and also on &quot;buzz&quot; as a separate article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the liberty to correct the paragraphs.</p>

<p>Considering articles: a very well-known IT publisher in Germany, Heise Verlag, is always happy to accept good articles. If I have some time someday, I&#8217;d send them an article about Perl. I think I&#8217;ll publish my thoughts on that and also on &#8220;buzz&#8221; as a separate article.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabor Szabo</title>
		<link>http://rassie.org/archives/312/comment-page-1#comment-6134</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabor Szabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironman is not my brain child but I think it was a very important step getting the community to talk about stuff a bit more. It is not a &quot;self-contained blogging system&quot;. It is an aggregator. Most of the blogs it collects are on their own systems (except of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://use.perl.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;use.perl.org&lt;/a&gt; and the ones on &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.perl.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogs.perl.org&lt;/a&gt;). Those blogs can be reached  from other directions as well, not only from the Ironman.As far as I understood, the hope of Ironman was to get more people blogging and to get some kind of a conversation out from the mailing lists and IRC channels to a place where others can also see.

I am sure it could do a lot more and I&#039;d be happy if the organizers pushed forward with the &quot;best post of month&quot; idea but I think it already did a lot of good.OTOH you are right, it would be great if we had articles included in major magazines but I think such articles are much more difficult to write than the average blog posts we see.

There are also a few open questions: How do you think that should happen? Everyone tries to write articles and submits them on their own? A single person (or a small group) organizes these? Who would that be?
Which magazines would you try to get in?

Perl 6 and naming:
I wish people would stop blaming Perl 6 or its name on the lack of buzz around Perl. I wish people were spending that energy and time in creating more buzz. e.g. By writing an article and getting it published in a magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironman is not my brain child but I think it was a very important step getting the community to talk about stuff a bit more. It is not a &#8220;self-contained blogging system&#8221;. It is an aggregator. Most of the blogs it collects are on their own systems (except of the <a href="http://use.perl.org/" rel="nofollow">use.perl.org</a> and the ones on <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/" rel="nofollow">blogs.perl.org</a>). Those blogs can be reached  from other directions as well, not only from the Ironman.As far as I understood, the hope of Ironman was to get more people blogging and to get some kind of a conversation out from the mailing lists and IRC channels to a place where others can also see.</p>

<p>I am sure it could do a lot more and I&#8217;d be happy if the organizers pushed forward with the &#8220;best post of month&#8221; idea but I think it already did a lot of good.OTOH you are right, it would be great if we had articles included in major magazines but I think such articles are much more difficult to write than the average blog posts we see.</p>

<p>There are also a few open questions: How do you think that should happen? Everyone tries to write articles and submits them on their own? A single person (or a small group) organizes these? Who would that be?
Which magazines would you try to get in?</p>

<p>Perl 6 and naming:
I wish people would stop blaming Perl 6 or its name on the lack of buzz around Perl. I wish people were spending that energy and time in creating more buzz. e.g. By writing an article and getting it published in a magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Rabbitson</title>
		<link>http://rassie.org/archives/312/comment-page-1#comment-6123</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Rabbitson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1, followed by standing ovation! While I generally disagree with the last part (rapid deprecation/morphing core) of your post, overall this is an excellent line of thought. Kudos!</description>
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